[DXLog.net - Support] Failure CAT

9A5K 9a5k at 9a5k.com
Sat Oct 5 11:27:38 CEST 2013


Hi Alfonso..

Did you try this with v2.0.17 now?
I've found a bug with CI-V code in previous version and it was fixed in
2.0.17.
Rin, JG1VGX had similar problem with previous version and he confirmed that
2.0.17 works ok now with his IC-706.
I've checked also with mine IC-756PROIII, and was OK too now.






On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 11:23 AM, EC7AKV Alfonso <ec7akv at gmail.com> wrote:

> **
> my CAT on my IC-706MKIIG no work, when work is during... 4 or 5 second, or
> ... i can't move dial, when i turn dial CAT is lost.
>
> I use Omnirig, and no use Omnirig, all possible configuration, ports, both
> radio, radio 1..... diferent Baudrates... and nothing i can't connect the
> CAT
>
> Dates is Fisical Ports RS-232 (9Pins)
>
> COM Port1 for CAT (DTR) and PTT (RTS)
> COM Por2 only CW (DTR)
>
> 9600 8N1 Address is 58H (Default and Fine work on all softwares)
>
> I configure the Omnirig  with all version of 706 = on DXL
> I Configure DXL with all version of 706
>
> I configure COm1 with PTT, Without PTT, Radio1, Both...
>
> With this configuration i testing all baudrates (too modify in TRX)
>
> Test in: Wintest, RadioGes, Logger32, VQLog, N1MM Logger, HRD Log,
> Mixw.... in all work fine, i haven't problem, in TRX, Interface or any wire
> or COM port, inclusive the same configuration in all software.
>
>
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>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* 9A5K <9a5k at 9a5k.com>
> *To:* rin JG1VGX <jg1vgx at jarl.com>
> *Cc:* Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net> ; DXLog.net Reflector<support at dxlog.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 8:21 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [DXLog.net - Support] Failure CAT
>
> Hi again.
>
> Just to inform you that solution is found. There is a method in
> System.Runtime.InteropServices on Marshal class called: ReleaseComObject.
> :-)
>
> So, in the code this one needs to be called before closing the object.
>
> Checked in task manager, everything seems fine now.
>
> That will be OK in release 2.0.18.
>
> 73,
> 9A5K
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:57 PM, 9A5K <9a5k at 9a5k.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I will check OmniRig documentation once again, object somehow stays
> active
> > even there is no dispose method on it so I can't
> > kill it on that way from application.
> >
> > QRX.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:54 PM, rin JG1VGX <jg1vgx at jarl.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry no, I can't now test with Omni-Rig because it's not working in
> >> my environment.
> >>
> >> I also found that if I kill Omni-Rig in Task Manager, the port will be
> >> released and become usable.
> >>
> >> 73 rin JG1VGX
> >>
> >> On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net> wrote:
> >> > Does split mode work properly with FT-450 if you use Omni-Rig?
> >> >
> >> > I saw the same issue when using DXLog with Omni-Rig.  Somehow it
> doesn't
> >> > release the Omni-rig connection immediately upon exit.  Maybe it times
> >> out
> >> > after a while.  But if I switch from Omni-rig to "native" support,
> that
> >> > seems to work immediately, so it is very mysterious how that happen if
> >> > there is no code to release the Omni-Rig connection.
> >> >
> >> > 73,
> >> > Bob, N6TV
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:29 AM, rin JG1VGX <jg1vgx at jarl.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Today I did a test of CAT via Omni-Rig. Unfortunately it's NOT
> working.
> >> >> With exactly the same cable, PC, port settings etc, CAT via Omni-Rig
> >> >> works with other software eg. 5MContest, AATest, but not with DXL.
> >> >> It appears that DXL takes hold of the com port and won't release it
> >> >> properly on exit. To use that virtual COM port with other software,
> >> >> releasing the hold by unplugging the USB adaptor is required.
> >> >> This phenomenon happens with another rig and a cable as well (I
> tested
> >> >> with a Yaesu FT-450).
> >> >> It's OK for now because at least proprietary CAT works for both
> radios.
> >> >>
> >> >> Another glitch I have found with FT-450 is that the SPLIT status is
> >> >> not handled properly.
> >> >> FT-450 has only one "split" but DXL somehow has two split status, one
> >> >> each for VFO A and B.
> >> >> On startup where actually no split is engaged in the rig, DXL already
> >> >> shows split on for A, off for B. If I press SPLIT button on the rig
> >> >> while it's still in VFO A, split is now turned on in VFO B (not A) in
> >> >> DXL. Apparently something is messed up in the code. Please put this
> >> >> also into the list.
> >> >>
> >> >> Will try to break some more in the weekend ;-)
> >> >>
> >> >> 73 rin JG1VGX
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 11:03 PM, rin JG1VGX <jg1vgx at jarl.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Did a quick test while driving back home.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now DXL rocks!!! The version 2.0.17 takes freq and mode flawlessly
> >> >> > with either CI-V Transceive off or on.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I chose proprietary rig control, but forgot to check through
> >> Omni-Rig.
> >> >> > Maybe later in the weekend. IC-706mk2, 9600 8N1, with a
> >> >> > less-than-ideal obscure USB-Serial cable, Win7 64bit Japanese.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Domo arigato!
> >> >> > 73 rin JG1VGX
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 9:56 AM, rin JG1VGX <jg1vgx at jarl.com>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> Chris,
> >> >> >> Thanks for all your effort. I'm glad to hear the problem was now
> >> >> tracked down.
> >> >> >> I'll test with new version later this week.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Bob,
> >> >> >> Thanks for comprehensive instructions. I hope I've followed them
> >> >> >> correctly. I picked IC-7000 (hex 70h) because it's easy to
> remember.
> >> >> >> You addressed all points we need to check in case of CAT
> problems. I
> >> >> >> should have switched on and off CI-V Transceive to see if that
> >> >> >> matters.
> >> >> >> As to USB-Serial, I used all varieties including FTDI and ICOM's
> >> >> >> built-in (Silicon Labs), but not legacy DB9 because I operate
> mobile
> >> >> >> with a laptop. I don't want to imagine being with a tower PC in a
> >> >> >> car!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> 73 rin JG1VGX
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 7:21 AM, 9A5K <9a5k at 9a5k.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>> Huh...
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I've got it working now in debug version..
> >> >> >>> Because CI-V transceive was always turned on here, I didn't
> notice
> >> the
> >> >> >>> problem.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> So, just short explanation..
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> DXLog in polling process ask radio some information:
> >> >> >>> VFO A frequency
> >> >> >>> VFO A mode
> >> >> >>> VFO B frequency
> >> >> >>> VFO B mode
> >> >> >>> Active VFO
> >> >> >>> Split status..
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Some radios return this info with just one command, other needs
> >> more
> >> >> >>> commands to get all responses needed.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Usually, you can query radio in any order to get response, or you
> >> can
> >> >> post
> >> >> >>> more commands in a row and then
> >> >> >>> process responses as they are received from radio.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> With ICOM CI-V protocol, there is a small problem.
> >> >> >>> When you post a command to radio, it will respond with echo of
> this
> >> >> command
> >> >> >>> and after it there will be possible info response,
> >> >> >>> the actual data you've asked for.
> >> >> >>> But, if you post more commands in a row, for example ask for
> >> frequency
> >> >> and
> >> >> >>> immediately after that ask for mode,
> >> >> >>> you will get two echos back, first one for frequency, second one
> >> for
> >> >> mode..
> >> >> >>> and only one response with data, usually second one (mode).
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> So, now, ICOM CAT code is rewritten on the way that all commands
> in
> >> >> polling
> >> >> >>> process are going to internal stacking queue, and they will be
> sent
> >> >> >>> to radio as soon as response on previous command is received.
> >> >> >>> If queue length is over 20 commands, queue is restarted (if radio
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >>> respond in some period of time because of some error).
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> I am just testing IC-756 PRO III here, no CI-V transceive is on,
> >> radio
> >> >> >>> responds frequency in a rate of about 3 times per second now.
> >> >> >>> With old code, frequency was responded sometimes once per 10
> >> seconds?!.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Any feedback will be appreciated.
> >> >> >>> This will be included in v2.0.17..
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> 73,
> >> >> >>> Chris - 9A5K
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> Hi Rin,
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> OK, now you are testing with IC-9100, a radio that is so new
> that
> >> >> OmniRig
> >> >> >>>> doesn't even list it.  Before you mentioned that you were using
> >> Icom
> >> >> >>>> IC-706MKII (not IC-706MIIG, right?)  Let's concentrate on one
> at a
> >> >> time.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Each Icom radio has a unique hex address, and it is very
> >> important to
> >> >> get
> >> >> >>>> this address 100% correct when using any software.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The IC-9100 uses hex address 7C (7Ch) by default (menu 61).
> >>  Maybe try
> >> >> >>>> changing it to 6A temporarily, and set radio type in OmniRig to
> >> >> IC-7800?
> >> >> >>>>  Or use a different radio type if it more closely matches the
> >> >> IC-9100, and
> >> >> >>>> use the hex address for that different radio instead of 6A or
> 7C.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Use Menu 62 to set CI-V OFF, and menu 60 to set the baud rate
> >> (maybe
> >> >> do not
> >> >> >>>> use AUTO?).  Then set the same setting in OmniRig with radio
> type
> >> set
> >> >> to
> >> >> >>>> IC-7800.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> It is also much better to use a  real serial port than a
> >> USB-to-Serial
> >> >> >>>> adapter.  Icom radios also require the CT-17 level converter or
> >> >> equivalent
> >> >> >>>> if they don't have a DB-9 serial connector on the back.  What
> are
> >> you
> >> >> using
> >> >> >>>> to convert USB to RS-232 to CI-V?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Anyway, for the IC-9100, with OmniRig did you try:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>    1. CI-V Transceive to OFF
> >> >> >>>>    2. CI-V Address 6A
> >> >> >>>>    3. CI-V Baud 9600
> >> >> >>>>    4. OmniRig, Rig = IC-7800
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> And set radio type in DXLog.net to OmniRig?
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> If that doesn't work, you will need to turn CI-V Transceive ON,
> >> set
> >> >> Radio
> >> >> >>>> Type to IC-7800 or similar in DXLog.net, and set the CI-V hex
> >> address
> >> >> to
> >> >> >>>> match whatever radio type you select in DXLog.net.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> *FYI Win-Test gets best results from Icom radios by selecting
> >> "Don't
> >> >> Poll"
> >> >> >>>> and "Use CI-V Transceive" *but DXLog.net doesn't seem to have
> >> these
> >> >> options
> >> >> >>>> (I guess they are the default).  I get the feeling polling
> doesn't
> >> >> work
> >> >> >>>> well with Icom radios, which may explain why you're having so
> much
> >> >> trouble
> >> >> >>>> getting OmniRig to work.  It could also be the USB-to-Serial
> >> adapter.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> 73,
> >> >> >>>> Bob, N6TV
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:13 AM, 9A5K <9a5k at 9a5k.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> > Hi Rin...
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > Actually, I am using ICOM radios.. hi
> >> >> >>>> > IC-756PRO III works fine here, IC-7400 too..
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > I'll check it once more today before 2.0.17 will be released.
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > Omni-Rig should work. Can you send me port config screen shots
> >> to
> >> >> check
> >> >> >>>> how
> >> >> >>>> > did you set it,
> >> >> >>>> > just to be sure?
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > Thanks.
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > 73,
> >> >> >>>> > Chris - 9A5K
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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> 73 de rin JG1VGX
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > 73 de rin JG1VGX
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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