[DXLog.net - Support] DXlog.net with PowerSDR and CW Skimmer?

Andrew O'Brien k3ukandy at gmail.com
Sun Mar 23 22:46:47 CET 2014


I use CW Skimmer simply so I know what my antenna is seeing , I do not feed
it to other clusters or the RBN.

With  NOT  DXlog involved, I usually pair ports 13/3 so that Port 13 is set
for PowerSDR and port 3 goes to DDITIL.  DDUTIL then allows OTHER pairs to
take the information from port 3 .  This way, I can feed other programs the
frequency information and CAT.

I'll try your NO RADIO idea and see what happens

Andy


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Andrew O'Brien <k3ukandy at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> CW Skimmer is working fine .  My issue is how to set up so that when I hit
>> a DXLOG.net function key the Flex radio keys send sends CW.  When PowerSDR
>> is set with just DXLOG.net all works well, CW is sent from the Function
>> keys.  This is achieved with 2 pairs of virtual serial ports .  3-13, 4-14.
>> PowerSDR has port 13 for CAT and port 14 is set in PowerSDR for CAT.
>>  DXLOG.net is set for CAT on port 3 .
>>
>
> Huh?  Port 13 and 14 are set for CAT?  Or is port 14 set for CW?  Which
> port for PTT?  Which pins?
>
> First, I don't really understand DDUtil.  Can't DXLog.net just connect
> directly to the Flex Radio Virtual Serial ports 3 and 4?
>
> Second, doesn't PowerSDR let you assign DTR and RTS to CW/PTT, on the
> *same* COM Port that is used for CAT, like the K3 does?  It should work
> OK with a separate CAT port too.  Of course DXLog.net must be configured to
> send CW and PTT on these same COM port pins.  CW is sent via ON/OFF keying,
> not CAT commands.  I suppose you have that working.
>
> Finally, if the problems happen when using CW Skimmer, it is because *CW
> Skimmer uses OmniRig*, and OnniRig tries to open CAT ports (it will not
> share them).  This is mostly useless, so you need to update the OmniRig
> configuration, to set it to "no radio," so it doesn't open any COM ports.
>  You can prove this is the problem by starting FlexRadio and DXLog.net
> first, *then* start CW Skimmer.  OmniRig will not be able to get to the
> CAT ports and everything should work normally.
>
> Maybe you could explain what you are trying to do with CW Skimmer in this
> setup, VFO tracking?  Click-to-tune?  I don't think that works unless CW
> Skimmer is in 3 kHz Audio mode or SoftRock-IF mode.  Which are you using?
>
> If the latter, just configure everything (DXLog.net and CW Skimmer) to use
> OmniRig for rig control. OmniRig has PowerSDR support.  Then the radio's
> COM port will be shared nicely by OmniRig.  Keep CW/PTT on a separate CAT
> port.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
> If I try various settings to use DDutil so that I can add CW Skimmer to
>> this mix, the CW PTT in DXLOG function keys  no longer works.  Probably
>> because I am making a stupid mistake in setting it up.
>> Andy K3UK
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <n6tv at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Andrew O'Brien <k3ukandy at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >  However, I  would
>>> > like to also run CW Skimmer and DDutil so that CW Skimmer can also
>>> share
>>> > the frequency information. I can't figure out how to set DDutil,
>>> PowerSDR,
>>> > and DXlog so that DXlog sends CW, as I said... I can do it without
>>> DDutil
>>> > being involved but not with.
>>> >
>>>
>>> CW Skimmer was designed to share frequency information with a logging
>>> program and radio via "Announce" messages and other commands sent or
>>> posted
>>> to the telnet window, not via DDutil or OmniRig or similar methods that
>>> require a COM port.  This allows "RigSync" to be accomplished in a more
>>> universal way.
>>>
>>> For example, if you click on a callsign in the CW Skimmer window, CW
>>> Skimmer posts a message to the telnet clients:
>>>
>>> To ALL de SKIMMER <2031Z> : Clicked on "K0AD" at 14034.7
>>>
>>>
>>> If you click on an empty spot in the Skimmer Waterfall, CW Skimmer
>>> generates:
>>>
>>> To ALL de SKIMMER <2031Z> : Clicked on "" at 14041.5
>>>
>>> This is called "Click to Tune".
>>>
>>> So whether you are using a FlexRadio or any radio, DXLog.net could watch
>>> for these commands in the cluster monitoring code, then send CAT commands
>>> the proper Radio to QSY to that frequency, and optionally fill in the
>>> callsign, similar to clicking on a spot on the DXLog.net band map.  In
>>> practice, though, the DXLog.net band map has a much wider frequency span,
>>> and if you click on CW Skimmer, the keyboard/mouse focus will switch to
>>> CW
>>> Skimmer, whereas you really want to keep it connect to DXLog.net at all
>>> times.  (N1MM has a nice feature:  it periodically forces mouse/keyboard
>>> focus back to itself, every 5 to 10 seconds or so, allowing you to
>>> temporarily click on other software like HamCAP while you keep
>>> operating.)
>>>
>>> The CW Skimmer waterfall can also be made to "track" the active radio's
>>> VFO, *if* the logging program sends special "cluster" commands to CW
>>>
>>> Skimmer via the telnet connection, whenever the VFO frequency changes,
>>> like
>>> this:
>>>
>>> SKIMMER/QSY 14017.0
>>>
>>>
>>> To flag dupes or highlight a new band country multiplier in a different
>>> color on CW Skimmer's display, the logging program could send:
>>>
>>> SKIMMER/STATUS K0AD 14034.7 DUPE
>>> SKIMMER/STATUS S51WO 14017.0 BNDCTY
>>>
>>>
>>> All of this is clearly documented in the CW Skimmer help text.  FYI,
>>> Win-Test implemented CW Skimmer waterfall tracking only, but not
>>> click-to-tune or callsign highlighting, as far as I can tell.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bob, N6TV
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